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Obama Launches Fiscal Cliff Campaign Obama Launches Fiscal Cliff Campaign Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Peter Cook reports on President Obama's decision to take the case on the fiscal cliff directly to the people. Cook ... Rated: -1     Duration: 114 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:19:07 PST	Obama Takes Fiscal Cliff Message To The Public Obama Takes Fiscal Cliff Message To The Public President Obama is holding a series of campaign-style events to gain public support for his fiscal cliff approach. Rated: 5     Duration: 97 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:05:07 PST	The Fiscal Cliff and Obamas Grand Bargain (Part 1) The Fiscal Cliff and Obamas Grand Bargain (Part 1) "President Obama invited Congressional Republicans and Democrats to the White House next week to begin talks to resolve the country's ... Rated: 4.8026643     Duration: 698 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Fri, 09 Nov 2012 20:30:08 PST	Fiscal Cliff BS Fiscal Cliff BS Should people panic and listen to defense contractors (and the Republicans and Democrats they fund) who care claiming that cuts to the defense ... Rated: 4.9035268     Duration: 597 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:02:30 PDT
Does Obama Really Want To Tax The Rich? Does Obama Really Want To Tax The Rich? "Obama senior adviser David Plouffe predicted that the fiscal cliff negotiations are "going to get hairy" in the coming weeks ... Rated: 4.9028111     Duration: 483 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:35:16 PST	Whos Getting Pushed Off the "Fiscal Cliff"? Whos Getting Pushed Off the "Fiscal Cliff"? Progressive Democrats lobby against a "Grand Bargain" that will further unravel the social safety net Rated: 4.7     Duration: 523 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:34:48 PST	Is the "Fiscal Cliff" a Fiction? Is the "Fiscal Cliff" a Fiction? John Weeks: The fiscal cliff has simply been created by Congress in order to push austerity which is no solution during a recession Rated: 3.9302325     Duration: 1113 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:39:42 PST	The Fiscal Cliff Myth (with Mattea Kramer) The Fiscal Cliff Myth (with Mattea Kramer) The National Priorities Project's Mattea Kramer explained the biggest misconceptions Americans have about the federal budget, what makes up ... Rated: 4.7611942     Duration: 1560 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:57:56 PST
How to Solve the Fiscal Cliff How to Solve the Fiscal Cliff --Richard Wolff, Economist and Professor Emeritus at the University of Massachusetts, joins David to explain what exactly the so-called " ... Rated: 4.8581562     Duration: 636 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:00:57 PST	Taxpayers Unsure About the "Fiscal Cliff" Taxpayers Unsure About the "Fiscal Cliff" by John Pless There's just five weeks before the nation hits the so-called "fiscal cliff" that experts say could send the country ... Rated: -1     Duration: 112 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:33:13 PST	Digby on the Fiscal Cliff Showdown Digby on the Fiscal Cliff Showdown From the Majority Report, live MF 12 noon EST and via daily podcast at Majority.FM Hullabaloo blogger Digby joined us to talk the Dems plans for ... Rated: 4.891892     Duration: 2557 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:58:57 PDT	Obama Boehner End Talks Geithner Prepared To Go Off Cliff Like Little Lemmings Obama Boehner End Talks Geithner Prepared To Go Off Cliff Like Little Lemmings President Obama met with John Boehner to discuss and explain the looming Fiscal Cliff as they sipped on Homeboy Goats Milk, a Kenyan drink Obama ... Rated: 3     Duration: 220 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:32:40 PST
United States Fiscal Cliff - Wiki Article United States Fiscal Cliff - Wiki Article In the politics of the United States, the fiscal cliff is the presumptive effect of a number of laws which (if unchanged) would result in tax ... Rated: -1     Duration: 2229 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:11:35 PST	Alice Rivlin - Will Our Polarized Politics Push Us over the Fiscal Cliff? Alice Rivlin - Will Our Polarized Politics Push Us over the Fiscal Cliff? October 18, 2012 Will Our Polarized Politics Push Us over the Fiscal Cliff? Room 003, Rockefeller Center 4:30 PM Alice Rivlin Senior Fellow in ... Rated: -1     Duration: 4416 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:26:52 PDT	Eliot Spitzer on Fiscal Cliff & Fading Chances for Financial Prosecutions Eliot Spitzer on Fiscal Cliff & Fading Chances for Financial Prosecutions From the Majority Report, live MF 12 noon EST and via daily podcast at Majority.FM Eliot Spitzer, former Governor of New York and host of Current ... Rated: 4.5     Duration: 1202 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Tue, 12 Jun 2012 12:44:27 PDT	Obama: Not Acceptable "Handful of Republicans" Block Fiscal Deal Obama: Not Acceptable "Handful of Republicans" Block Fiscal Deal More News: www.ntdtv.ca President Barack Obama hits the road to turn up the pressure on Republicans in the "fiscal cliff" talks, urging ... Rated: -1     Duration: 121 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Sat, 01 Dec 2012 05:02:38 PST
World News - Will Thanksgiving brawl impact Halle Berry custody case. Fox News World News - Will Thanksgiving brawl impact Halle Berry custody case. Fox News Sandy victims plagued by health problems | Fox News Video video.foxnews.com/ - Traduzir esta página What impact will fiscal cliff have if no deal ... Rated: 5     Duration: 276 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Fri, 23 Nov 2012 16:21:48 PST	John Boehner has lunch with President Obama And Sips The Famous Homeboy Goats Milk John Boehner has lunch with President Obama And Sips The Famous Homeboy Goats Milk President Obama met with John Boehner over the looming Fiscal Cliff and sipped on Homeboy Goats Milk, a Kenyan drink Obama brews at the White ... Rated: -1     Duration: 244 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Mon, 03 Dec 2012 02:34:25 PST	Norquist: Obama Won Because Voters Thought Romney Was a Poopy-Head Norquist: Obama Won Because Voters Thought Romney Was a Poopy-Head Anti-tax crusader Grover Norquist says that President Barack Obama did not win re-election because of his promise to raise taxes on the wealthy ... Rated: -1     Duration: 318 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:22:04 PST	NewsBusted 11/30/12 NewsBusted 11/30/12 TOPICS: --Fiscal Cliff --President Obama --China Tallest Building --Illinois Drivers Licenses for Illegal Aliens --MSNBC --Mitt Romney --Pope and ... Rated: 4.898684     Duration: 160 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:39:50 PST
FOX NEWS: Tax Hikes on Table FOX NEWS: Tax Hikes on Table esta página 2 horas atrás - CBS News video: Obama: Tax hike on wealthy only "fiscal cliff" deal I'll sign - In his ... today chided ... Rated: -1     Duration: 498 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Sat, 08 Dec 2012 15:39:47 PST	Grover Norquist vs Soledad OBrien On Tax Reform: Problem Is Too Much Spending Grover Norquist vs Soledad OBrien On Tax Reform: Problem Is Too Much Spending Norquist appeared on Monday's Starting Point, making his case for extending tax cuts in the fact of the looming "fiscal cliff." ... Rated: 3     Duration: 208 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:40:53 PST	A New Declaration Of Independence: Impeach Obama Now A New Declaration Of Independence: Impeach Obama Now SOURCE: bobpowell.blogspot.com PPSimmons Impeach Obama Facebook Page: www.facebook.com When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for ... Rated: 4.4242425     Duration: 731 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:29:26 PST	Obama Romney White House Meeting Obama Romney White House Meeting A meeting between the victor and vanquished is an American tradition in presidential politics, having produced such memorable scenes as John ... Rated: 5     Duration: 409 seconds     Video type: YouTube     Hosted by: www.youtube.com on Sat, 01 Dec 2012 15:56:51 PST

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Obama takes his case to the people Obama takes his case to the people President Obama renewed his call on Friday for Congress to extend the George W. Bush-era tax rates for middle-class Americans as he continues his battle with Congressional Republicans to avert the year-end “fiscal cliff.” Obama made his push one day ...	Obama's fiscal cliff deal: “Dear John, let's each kill one of our own” Obama's fiscal cliff deal: “Dear John, let's each kill one of our own” If that's the case — if I'm right about Obama's goal — the size of the tax increase doesn't matter at all. It's the fact of ... What does that make this deal for Obama? A double win; he gets two things he wants. What's the only thing in his way ...	Obama Takes "Fiscal Cliff" Case to Michigan Obama Takes "Fiscal Cliff" Case to Michigan President Barack Obama is pressing for public support Monday to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans, a day after he and House Speaker John Boehner met one-on-one for the first time to discuss ways to avert the "fiscal cliff." Neither side provided ...	Obama takes his 'fiscal cliff' roadshow to Northern Virginia Obama takes his 'fiscal cliff' roadshow to Northern Virginia President Obama on Thursday will take his case for higher taxes for the wealthy to Northern Virginia, where he will focus on the need to extend current rates to all but the top 2 percent of earners. As the year-end deadline for a budget deal to avoid ...
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"Fiscal cliff": A lesson in how not to negotiate "Fiscal cliff": A lesson in how not to negotiate The research is overwhelming that if you take care of the other side's interests, in addition to your own, you'll get a better deal, and better future deals, than if you just try to beat your opponent. People ... In the case of the "fiscal cliff" talks ...	Obama Takes His 'Tax the Rich' Show on the Road Obama Takes His 'Tax the Rich' Show on the Road Obama Takes His 'Tax the Rich' Show on the Road. Photo: iStockphoto/The Fiscal Times. Share. Print. Small Letter. Large Letter. Type Size: By ERIC PIANIN and JOSH BOAK, The Fiscal Times. November 15, 2012. In the final days of his hard fought ...	US Lawmakers at Odds on Averting 'Fiscal Cliff' US Lawmakers at Odds on Averting 'Fiscal Cliff' ... to negotiate a deal to prevent massive tax increases and deep spending cuts - known as the "fiscal cliff" - that will automatically take effect January 1. President Barack Obama is set to make his case to middle class Americans on higher taxes for ...

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OPINION; America’s Leftward Tilt?

The presidential election is now a close contest, but barring an Electoral College tie, someone is going to win, someone is going to lose, and both sides will have to make sense of it all. The obvious story line of this election, whoever wins, is that Americans want pragmatic solutions to the relentless distress they have experienced for - Op-Ed article by psychology Prof Drew Westen observes that there is one pole in American politics today, and it is so powerful that it is drawing both parties rightward; notes that despite this fact, both presidential candidates have done best when they tacked to left; expresses hope that whoever wins will move to left after election. (M) - A psychology professor at Emory University and the author of “The Political Brain.” - By DREW WESTEN

Is this a Preview of coming attractions: the guy who won 332-206 will win cliff wars?

Robert Shrum: Obama Won Election & Will Win Again on Fiscal Cliff The fiscal cliff fight can play out in different ways—but in any scenario, the Bush tax rates for the rich are gone. Obama may make some concessions to the GOP, but he’ll end up victorious, just as he did in November, says Robert Shrum. He’s abruptly resigned to take over the right-wing Heritage Foundation think tank. But on his way out the door, the presiding prelate of the Tea Party in the Senate, South Carolina’s Jim DeMint, anathematized House Speaker John Boehner for the secular sin of offering a Republican proposal to raise revenue by closing loopholes and limiting deductions. As heresies go, it’s not much. Boehner has brewed a warmed-over Mitt Romney plan while omitting the noxious idea of voucherizing Medicare. Never fear, through: the speaker seeks big cuts in Medicare and Social Security benefits, proving again that something at the heart of the Republican Party yearns to shred the social safety net. Obama Wins Again High school English teacher Tiffany Santana listens at left as President Barack Obama speaks to the media during a visit with middle class taxpayers to discuss the importance of extending income tax cuts for Americans and small businesses, December 6, 2012, in Falls Church, Virginia. (Carolyn Kaster / AP Photo) In the Kabuki theater now being performed on the fiscal cliff, DeMint is irrelevant—and so are Boehner and the primary-paranoid GOP Senate Leader Mitch McConnell—on the central question of higher tax rates for the wealthy. It’s not just that President Obama campaigned and won on raising those rates, unlike the President Bush of 2004, who claimed a mandate to privatize Social Security, a scheme he had not dared speak of during the election. Nor is the decisive factor simply the exit polling or the post-November polling, which show 63 percent of Americans are on the president’s side here. What matters most is that the tax increases will happen on Dec. 31, unless Obama agrees to stop them. Republicans backed themselves into this corner first with Bush’s deal to sunset his tax plan after 10 years, then with the congressional party’s 2010 “victory” in extending the tax cuts until after the election, and then with the 2011 jerry-rigged contrivance of “sequestration,” automatic reductions in domestic and defense spending at the end of this year as the price for raising the debt ceiling. The latter two moves were premonitory expressions of the GOP delusion of unskewed polls and an unrepresentative turnout, which pervaded the Romney headquarters and its attendant pundit class all the way until Ohio and the election were called—and in Karl Rove’s case, screechingly beyond that. Obama, they believed with all the fervor of a false faith, was bound to lose. And now, in the fiscal negotiations, they’re still running on the same tattered laundry ticket that took them down the road to defeat. The deception of hiding blessings for the rich behind a tax break for the middle class, the drivel about “job creators,” the doctrinal fulminations of Grover Norquist with his pledge never, ever to vote for a tax increase—which has turned Republicans into Stepford senators and representatives—all this is a bankrupt strategy both in terms of policy and politics. On policy, the fight can play out in different ways. But whatever the way, we will end with tax rates at the top back up to the Clinton-era “job killing” level—when the economy created 22 million new jobs. Simultaneously or soon after, the tax cuts for the middle class will be restored.
Answer: I'm really glad the Prez seems to have become a better negotiator and to use the political capital he actually has. I don't know why he didn't do that in the first term. Rove, DeMint and Dick Morris go bye-bye; Boehner kicks some tea partiers out of their positions; the Prez gets great approval numbers--how good can things get?
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Obama To Press Fiscal Cliff Case In Michigan

Hope for deal after Boehner, Obama talks * Two sides' proposals still far apart By Fred Barbash WASHINGTON, Dec 10 (Reuters) - President Barack Obama heads for familiar campaign ground Monday, an auto plant in Michigan, to press his case ... Obama is taking his case to the people that right balance is needed namely that the middle class have taken in the shorts, the middle class continue to take it in shorts and now its time for the wealthy to at least have a turn.

Obama's fiscal cliff deal: "Dear John, let's each kill one of our own"

This analysis as to what's being discussed in the supposed “fiscal cliff” talks is somewhat speculative, but there are enough pieces in place that I'm willing to go with it and let Obama prove me wrong. (Please please ... If that's the case — if I'm right about Obama's goal — the size of the tax increase doesn't matter at all. It's the fact of it ... at Medicare. The Klein-specified deal takes a whack at Medicare, his surrogate Dick Durbin has taken another whack, and on and on.

Youre Nuts!

It wasnt that long ago that Republican moneymen and operatives in Washington were moping around K Street like Eeyore in the Hundred Acre Wood, lamenting their partys extremist image and casting about for a candidate with a chance of beating Barack Obama in 2012. Citing what he called the near self-immolation of House Republicans during the - By MATT BAI

OP-ED COLUMNIST; The Blackmail Caucus

If President Obama is re-elected, health care coverage will expand dramatically, taxes on the wealthy will go up and Wall Street will face tougher regulation. If Mitt Romney wins instead, health coverage will shrink substantially, taxes on the wealthy will fall to levels not seen in 80 years and financial regulation will be rolled back. - Paul Krugman Op-Ed column dismisses notion that people should vote for Mitt Romney based on the assumption that Congressional Democrats will be more willing to compromise with Romney than Republicans have been with Pres Obama; questions whether it is wise to reward Republican intransigence. (M)/ - By PAUL KRUGMAN

Obama To Press Fiscal Cliff Case In Michigan

9 hours ago ... Hope for deal after Boehner, Obama talks * Two sides' proposals still far ... Obama is taking his case to the people that right balance is needed ...

As "fiscal cliff" clock ticks, Obama hits the road again - CBS News

11 hours ago ... It's just over three weeks until the first effects of the "fiscal cliff" kick in and ... the " fiscal cliff" and, if a deal isn't struck before the end of the year, ... His remarks come on the heels of his weekly address over the .... Some people accuse Obama of class warfare while they praise the bipartisan deficit commission.

Obama takes 'fiscal cliff' case to public; GOP turns to Rubio to make ...

After a week in which lawmakers in Washington said there had been “no progress” on the “fiscal cliff” talks, President Obama reiterated for Republicans his stand on the gridlocked negotiations: No deal without higher taxes on ... I say let Obama and democrat add the taxes then the jobs will go bye bye and then people will see the true failures of lying democrats and Obama who should have already been impeach for his lying to the people and not sending help to save ...

anyone gonna watch Manny Pacmans fight tonight?

I know Jerome will. Hey Rolfie!! How u been mate? I never call u "Rolfie", dunno what came over me. Anyways, i was gonna email u but u dont accept mails. Oisin, ha... i wanna respond to that, but i dont know where to begin.
Answer: No...... I do not believe I have the channel for which this "fight" will take place on. Ya know? But what I'll be doing is watching Cruel Intentions 2 on VIVA, I liked the first one, but is this one any better? Will be my first time watching it so I hope it's a cracker. Speaking of cracker aren't you lot looking forward to Christmas I am, unless the world ends first.... in which case RIP to the lot of you, but it was a good run while it lasted. I hope the world doesn't end though, looking forward to heading out on Boxing day and New years eve so it'll be a real shame to miss them two, you know it's going to be mad craic on those two days. then heading back to Uni on the 7th of January for exams, oh the stress of it all, wish me look lads because I'm sure I'll need it. But then I'm off for 3 weeks after them so it ain't so bad. Anyways I'm thinking of doing a volunteering scheme, this will involve me raising 2,000 euro's in order to go to either Necuragua, Uganda, Zambia, Tanzania or India. It'll be tough but I feel it will be a good experience for me and it'll look good on my CV. Anyways I am glad we won today, Arteta with two penalties even if the first one was debatable, we need some luck, hopefully we'll push. Ha, we're still in the UCL which is more than Chelski or Man City so lets all laugh at them I believe we can do a miracle and go all the way, I just have a feeling that this will be our year, I just know it. Anyways any fun with you's haven't been on here as much as in the past, besides it seems dead don't you think? Glad to see you's still around because quite a few people have gone AWOL however the usual suspects are still around. A brave man once said..... Bill Clinton, don’t get me wrong, was the best speaker Wednesday night. But that is largely because the rest of the evening was atrocious. Clinton was hoarse, and he seemed to holler for no reason at all. He decried those meanie Republicans of today (the favorite ploy of partisan Democrats is to praise every Republican no longer in office), and he repeated the tropes that Republicans want you to be on your own, want a “winner-take-all” society and want to help only the rich. Yawn. At times his defense of President Obama strained credulity: Obama, he said, is bipartisan because he hired Republicans in government jobs and he is willing to work “cooperatively.” The Obama record is so obviously at odds with that sentiment (unilateral action on immigration and on welfare and the refusal to make a deal entitlements or address the fiscal cliff) that Clinton’s argument seemed unserious. At his most effective, Clinton said that no president could have fixed in four years the economy that Obama inherited. That's all the news I've got for the moment.
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Pressuring GOP, Obama takes his fiscal plan to Pa. : Madisondotcom

Nov 30, 2012 ... Obama took his case to an audience in a Philadelphia suburb, saying that this move ... Under last year's debt ceiling deal, Obama simply had to notify Congress that he was .... 600 people are going to lose their jobs in Wausau, is that "fair'? .... Walker urges Washington not to raise taxes to avoid 'fiscal cliff' ...

Obama's fiscal cliff deal: "Dear John, let's each kill one of our own"

7 hours ago ... Ezra Klein detailed a two-part "fiscal cliff" deal offered by Obama. ... If that's the case — if I'm right about Obama's goal — the size of the tax ... The Klein-specified deal takes a whack at Medicare, his surrogate ... He got something only he and NeoLiberal Democrats wanted, and left his people high and dry; ...

The Final Days

The armored black limousine rolled to a halt near the foot of Air Force One. Secret Service agents opened the doors simultaneously, and from opposite sides emerged President George W. Bush and Senator John McCain. They circled around to stand side by side and, for the next 14 seconds, smiled and waved at the assembled cameras -- 14 seconds of - Peter Baker article on Pres George W Bushs concerns during his final months in office, his effort to define his legacy on his terms and his complex relationship with Sen John McCain, former rival whose election as president would help vindicate Bush presidency even though McCain continues to distance himself from Bush; drawings (L) - Peter Baker, a contributing writer, covered the White House and is working on a book on the Bush presidency. This is his first article for the magazine. - By PETER BAKER

Biden takes fiscal cliff case to Virginia diner - POLITICO.com

Vice President Joe Biden continued the White House campaign to pressure congressional Republicans to agree to extend the current tax rate for middle class tax cuts, taking his message to a Virginia diner on Friday. Though “it's ... When it comes to a deal that President Obama will support, there are "two irreducible minimum requirements for us," Biden said. First, taxes must ... You can't get there from here without affecting these people around this table.” It would take ...

Obama Talks Fiscal Cliff, Slams "Right-to-Work" in Mich. | NBC ...

10 hours ago ... President Barack Obama waded into Michigan's bitter fight over a likely new right -to-work law Monday while touting his fiscal cliff proposal, saying the ... Obama, in his campaign-style speech, stressed that he won't sign a deal that doesn't ... "The millions of people that work for us, their lives are in flux.

Youre Nuts!

It wasnt that long ago that Republican moneymen and operatives in Washington were moping around K Street like Eeyore in the Hundred Acre Wood, lamenting their partys extremist image and casting about for a candidate with a chance of beating Barack Obama in 2012. Citing what he called the near self-immolation of House Republicans during the - By MATT BAI

Will Speaker of the House Boehners bluff to retain tax cuts for the top 1% work?

The House Speaker has no leverage on the Bush tax cuts. We should stop taking him seriously Boehner Is Bluffing The House Speaker has no leverage on the Bush tax cuts. We should stop taking him seriously. By Matthew Yglesias|Posted Friday, Nov. 9, 2012, at 3:04 PM ET Remember the famous scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark when Indiana Jones faces off against a guy who unsheathes a scimitar and wows the audience with his fancy swordsmanship--only to get shot in the chest by Indy? The swordsman—that’s House Speaker John Boehner right now on the Bush tax cuts. Whether it’s out of deference to the office, eagerness to have an interesting story to write about, or plain gullibility, every congressional reporter in town is now dutifully reporting on his negotiating strategy. But this fight is over. Boehner has brought a knife to a gunfight, only nobody seems to have told anyone in the conservative movement. To recap, the basic situation is this. Back when George W. Bush was in office, he wanted to cut taxes. And he wanted to disguise the cost of his tax cuts. So he had his allies on Capitol Hill write the legislation so that the tax cuts would automatically expire at the end of a 10-year window. That window closed at the end of 2010. But during the 2010 lame-duck session, Republicans were riding high on electoral victory and the Obama administration was concerned that tax hikes would hurt the economy. So they cut a deal to extend the Bush tax cuts two more years into the 2012 lame-duck session. It was a smart idea for everyone concerned. With the economy weak, there really was no case for a short-term tax increase, and this way the presidential election would resolve everything. If Obama lost, his GOP opponent would surely sign a permanent extension of the Bush tax cuts. But if Obama won, then he’d block any extension. As you probably heard Tuesday night, Obama won. Obama’s party also gained two Senate seats and a handful of seats in the United States House of Representatives. Consequently, the Bush tax cuts are toast. This is a question of fact, not of interpretation. The American political system is full of checks and balances, and the way the game works is that tie goes to the status quo. And in this case, the status quo is that the tax cuts expire. Conservatives can perhaps console themselves with the realization that the expiration isn’t an underhanded liberal trick. It’s their own trick, undertaken to make the apparent cost of the tax cuts smaller. Next time, having learned their lesson, they should just pass a smaller, but more permanent, reduction in taxes. If they’d done that, then Obama would have no power to force higher rates on the country. He could beg and plead for a grand bargain day and night and it still wouldn’t happen. The cold hard reality is he doesn’t have the votes in the House to raise taxes and he can’t get the votes because the House is locked down for the GOP thanks to well-drawn district boundaries. read more: http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2012/11/boehner_and_the_fiscal_cliff_the_house_speaker_is_bluffing_about_the_bush.html
Answer: I hope the bluff won't work. We can't afford tax cuts for the 1%! But it all depends, I think, how Obama plays it. He has a lot of leverage that he HAS to hold tightly to and not cave or compromise too much. (remember Boehner's "I got 98% of what I wanted"? Disaster for progressives.) He made a point to say he will veto a bill that doesn't go back to the Clinton rates and pointed out that the people have spoken by re-electing him. I hope the red Congress will let Boehner be the reasonable guy he claims to be and not be pulled further to the brink by Cantor and others. We shall see!
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Obama takes his case on fiscal cliff to the people

Nov 30, 2012 ... President Obama renewed his call on Friday for Congress to extend the George W. Bush-era tax ... Obama takes his case on fiscal cliff to the people ... He said he would continue to seek a deal with the president ahead of the ...

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Three days before Christmas, President Obama gathered his economic team in the West Wings Roosevelt Room to review themes for his State of the Union address. The edge-of-the-cliff crisis he inherited had passed, but with more than 14 million Americans still out of work, he was looking for bold ways to bring down unemployment. The ideas presented - Peter Baker is a White House correspondent for The Times and a contributing writer for the magazine. - By PETER BAKER

How many times will Obama play golf while the country goes off the self-inflicted cliff?

This whole things seems like just another staged and scripted media event. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-insiders/post/this-is-what-no-deal-looks-like-in-washington/2012/11/30/d11b8184-3af8-11e2-9258-ac7c78d5c680_blog.html 11/30/2012 This is what ‘no deal’ looks like in Washington There is no case to make that President Obama is showing leadership to facilitate an agreement and make sure the fiscal cliff is avoided. I dont think he is shirking a leadership role because he doesnt know how to lead, I think it is because he doesnt want to lead. If The White House wanted to get something done, things would look very different in Washington right now. When short-timer Geithner spent 45 minutes meeting with congressional leaders yesterday, he was presenting an "offer" from the president that is surreal and could only be meant to delay any real discussions. The "offer" doesnt address the fiscal cliff problem. It is mostly a rehash of a failed Obama budget that calls for the usual taxing and spending. Like Geithner, the presidents allies in Congress are taunting and insulting Republicans and demanding specifics and concessions while they offer none of their own. And the only thing the president has said about entitlement spending is that we have to "take a serious look at how we reform our entitlements." When someone in Washington says they are going to "look at" your problem, that is code for, "Im not going to do one thing to help you; this meeting is over." Aunt J, you should know Obama better than that by now. He ignores it and hopes it GETS WORSE. Bad Baby, whats the matter, did I make you pee your panties on that other question? Ha ha, you forgot to hide your Q&As on your new account. tribeca, said the spider to the fly: Lets eat you now, then the rest we can negotiate later.... LOL
Answer: The federal government is not a business that must balance its budget. It is a sovereign state that: 1.has no Constitutional obligation to borrow money that it needs; 2.can create any amount of fiat currency needed without borrowing, just as FDR had the Fed finance World War II by buying huge amounts of Treasury bills at an almost zero percent interest rate, a policy followed by postwar prosperity; 3.cannot become insolvent; 4.must build infrastructure to fulfill the goals of its Constitution’s preamble; 5.is legally required to promote “…maximum employment…”; 6.can spend $1T annually on infrastructure (averaging $11 daily per consumer - not Zimbabwe) to bring full employment without borrowing; GDP will rise $1.6T (says CBO) yielding $0.32T federal tax revenue growth plus $0.16T tax revenue growth at the state and local government levels plus $0.5T savings in unemployment relief plus $0,02T productivity gain = $1T!; 7.can restrain spending on infrastructure when full employment appears; 8.can raise interest rates to stop harmful inflation on a dime; and 9.will have the world’s soundest currency when it has the world’s best infrastructure, including: the best institutions of scientific research (NASA, NIH, etc.), the best protection of the environment (“green” energy, dams, sea walls, etc.), the best systems of support for all the sports and all the arts, the best systems of emergency response (FEMA, local fire departments, etc.), the best systems of justice (local police departments, courts, prisons, etc.), the best systems of transportation and communication (smart grids, maglev trains, etc.), the best systems of FREE EDUCATION from infancy to the highest university level, the best systems of FREE MEDICAL CARE for everybody, the best systems of FREE HANDICAPPED SUPPORT, and the strongest armed force. Yes, we can have full employment instead of food stamps and the best infrastructure without harmful inflation or serious debt interest expense. Fiat currency, full employment, and infrastructure trump everything! Google: UMKC Economics Faculty, NewEconomicPerspectives.org
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GOP divide over Obama tax plan goes public - CNN.com

Nov 28, 2012 ... President Obama is making good on his warning to Republicans last year that he would take his case on taxes to the American people. ... at pressuring Republicans to compromise and reach a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff.

How many times will Obama play golf while the country goes off the self-inflicted cliff?

This whole things seems like just another staged and scripted media event. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-insiders/post/this-is-what-no-deal-looks-like-in-washington/2012/11/30/d11b8184-3af8-11e2-9258-ac7c78d5c680_blog.html 11/30/2012 This is what ‘no deal’ looks like in Washington There is no case to make that President Obama is showing leadership to facilitate an agreement and make sure the fiscal cliff is avoided. I dont think he is shirking a leadership role because he doesnt know how to lead, I think it is because he doesnt want to lead. If The White House wanted to get something done, things would look very different in Washington right now. When short-timer Geithner spent 45 minutes meeting with congressional leaders yesterday, he was presenting an "offer" from the president that is surreal and could only be meant to delay any real discussions. The "offer" doesnt address the fiscal cliff problem. It is mostly a rehash of a failed Obama budget that calls for the usual taxing and spending. Like Geithner, the presidents allies in Congress are taunting and insulting Republicans and demanding specifics and concessions while they offer none of their own. And the only thing the president has said about entitlement spending is that we have to "take a serious look at how we reform our entitlements." When someone in Washington says they are going to "look at" your problem, that is code for, "Im not going to do one thing to help you; this meeting is over."
Answer: He'll just dismiss the problems as "bumps on the road." That makes it ok... [not]
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Obama, John Boehner Meet At White House For Fiscal Cliff Discussion

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama and House Speaker John Boehner met Sunday at the White House to discuss the ongoing negotiations over the impending "fiscal cliff," the first meeting between just the two ... The president is traveling to Redford, Mich., on Monday to promote his agenda in a speech to workers at an engine factory; auto workers helped Obama win Michigan in last month's election. ..... The other would take a chunk out of corporate profits.

What's With Obama's Fiscal Cliff Road Trip? « CBS Los Angeles

All the effort with President Barack Obama flying around and trying to convince the public to push for his version of avoiding the “fiscal cliff” seems awfully strange. But yet, he's using this past-failed method of trying to get his ...

President Obama's 'Campaign'-Style Fiscal Cliff Negotiations: Is The ...

President Obama has been blasted by the GOP for his campaign-style approach to the fiscal cliff negotiations. ... Obama may be using calculated political moves to pass the deal he's after, but the reality is, he's also doing what every lawmaker, Republican or Democrat, ought to be doing: encouraging the American people to express their views on governmental policies .... He's going to make his case directly to the American people and that is exactly what he is doing.

On Fiscal Cliff Talks, Obama Takes Case to the Public - WSJ.com

2 days ago ... Now he is taking his case to the public and tapping his network of campaign ... leadership and taken their case directly to the American people. ... says a deal will be reached to prevent the U.S. going over the fiscal cliff thanks ...

Obama takes fiscal cliff case to Twitter - First Read

In his latest social media push to get support for his fiscal cliff plan, President Barack Obama participated in a brief Twitter question-and-answer session, alternately defending his position on taxes and addressing concerns … ... using the keyword, or hashtag, “My2K” (the amount the administration says most people would have to pay if their Bush-era tax cuts expired), the president picked eight tweets, most of which seemed chosen to reinforce a key part of his plan.

Differences between conservatives and liberals?

Excerpts from Does your biology influence your vote? http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21628892.100-does-your-biology-influence-your-vote.html More if you follow the link, but... Your thoughts on this? ==== Personality politics The researchers concluded that these outward differences were a manifestation of inward traits - specifically openness and conscientiousness, two of the "big five" dimensions of personality that are known to have a strong genetic basis. Summarising these and other findings, they wrote: "In general,liberals are more open-minded, creative, curious, and novelty seeking, whereas conservatives are more orderly, conventional, and better organized" (Political Psychology, vol 29, p 807). People of different ideologies also differ in their social preferences. As a rule, conservatives are more likely than liberals to prefer white people, straight people and high-status groups. Liberals are more comfortable than conservatives with members of ethnic and sexual minorities. This is borne out in self-reports and, crucially, in psychological tests that measure unconscious attitudes - that is, preferences that operate outside of awareness or control. It is important to note that liberals also unconsciously prefer high-status to low-status groups, just not as much as conservatives do. Stable ideological differences have also been found in moral judgements, with liberals more morally offended by suffering and inequality and conservatives more morally offended by betrayals of the in-group, disrespect for authority and tradition, and signs of sexual or spiritual "impurity". Again, these differences appear to have biological roots: they have been linked to anatomical differences in the size of various brain structures (Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, vol 24, p 1657). Differences have also been found at the level of cognition and perception. Several studies in the 2003 analysis showed that conservatives have a higher need for "cognitive closure" - wanting to turn uncertainties into certainties and ambiguity into clarity - while liberals had a higher need for cognition itself, enjoying deliberation and mental challenges. This finding was strengthened by a series of studies published this year, which showed that hindering subjects deliberation, by requiring them to do distractor tasks while filling out surveys, for example, made their opinions and attitudes more conservative. Conservatives are more likely to report seeing the world as a dangerous place, and again biology may provide an explanation. When faces with ambiguous expressions are flashed onto a screen, conservatives are more likely than liberals to perceive them as angry or threatening rather than sad or neutral. When exposed to threatening images or sudden noises, conservatives react more strongly, showing greater levels of the "eye-blink startle" response and skin conductance. It goes on. Differences are also seen in measurements of self-control. In one study, participants performed a task that required them to repeatedly press a key when one character was shown to them, but suppress the impulse when another character was shown at the same time. Liberals were better able to control their impulses and showed more activity in the anterior cingulate cortex, a brain area associated with cognitive control and self-regulation. Liberal participants turn out to have more grey matter in this region, presumably indicating that they use it more, while conservatives have more grey matter in the right amygdala, an area associated with threat response and intense emotions. Most controversially, political scientists have begun to search for genetic roots of ideology. For 25 years, we have known about the high heritability of political attitudes, based on studies of twins. Identical twins are much more likely to share political views than fraternal twins, suggesting it is not only their shared environment that is at work but also their shared genes. More recently, geneticists have begun looking at particular genes that may contribute to ideology. Nobody is suggesting that there are genes "for" liberalism or conservatism, but one gene of interest is the 7R variant of the DRD4 dopamine receptor gene, which has been associated with novelty-seeking behaviour and liberal politics. Taken together, there is a substantial body of data suggesting that conservatives and liberals really are different tribes, divided not by opinions so much as by temperament and even basic biology. Not surprisingly, the idea has attracted a lot of criticism.
Answer: Very interesting. I find the data to be a bit circumstantial, but it is compelling none the less. I have noticed that Conservatives that I know of tend to be more violent while Liberals tend to be less violent. Conservatives tend to resort very much to "knee jerk" responses than Liberals do when confronted with information that challenges, adamantly, their world view. Liberals tend to be much more introspective and self-considering when faced with the same. It would not surprise me to learn that the two groups are actually different tribes, with different evolutionary traits, and it would also explain why co-existence is very difficult. Conservatives, wishing certainty, would be highly willing to wipe out anything that is different from them and it indeed seems to explain the vitriol and aggressive dialogue that the Conservatives employ. Readily Conservatives lapse into an "Us or them" thought process while Liberals are more willing to compromise. The issue is that Conservatives see compromise on behalf of an opponent or a rival as an affirmation that their ideology is correct and simply serves to push them to compromise less. This is one of the reasons I recommend, when dealing with Conservatives, to take a hard line stance and refuse to back down or compromise. They are dominated by powerful self-assure personalities and showing, what I can only describe as, backbone is one of the few ways that one can bring them into line. This is one of the reasons why the Fiscal Cliff is such a hot topic at the present time. If the Liberal group, in this case represented by President Barack Obama, relents and does not increase taxes on the wealthy the Conservatives will assume that they can pressure their way through all future negotiations. As cold as it may sound the way to handle Conservatives, literally, is to not back away from them under any circumstances until their will is able to be broken. Based on the "freak outs" over President Obama's re-election the fragile self-image the Conservatives have cannot handle being challenged too frequently without suffering ego reinforcement. Thus, truly, the best way to deal with that is to deny that reinforcement and coerce them into changing their behavior.
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