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With this Announcement is Boehner securing his place as obstructionist or compromiser?
Boehner: Obamacare on table for fiscal cliff talks
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CNNs Dana Davidsen
(CNN) – As congressional leaders and President Barack Obama search for common ground to tame the national debt as the weeks dwindle down to end of the year, House Speaker John Boehner said the Affordable Care Act, often referred to as Obamacare, must be included in deficit negotiations.
"We cant afford it, and we cant afford to leave it intact," Boehner wrote of Obamas signature healthcare initiative in the Cincinnati Enquirer. "Thats why Ive been clear that the law has to stay on the table as both parties discuss ways to solve our nations massive debt challenge."
Though Republicans have continually pushed for a full repeal of the law, Obamas re-election marked the next step in its implementation. Each state is required to decide whether to set up its own health care exchange - where individuals and small businesses can purchase affordable health care, subsidizing insurance for low-income consumers - or choose to have the federal government manage the states exchange.
In the editorial Boehner lauded Ohio Governor John Kasichs decision Friday refusing to set up a state-run exchange, the result being the federal government management of the states health care exchange.
As states decide how to comply with the law, leaders from both parties are in the midst of contentious dealings on how to reduce the nations debt and avoid the so-called fiscal cliff – a series of federal spending cuts and tax rates increases set to go into place at the beginning of next year if Washington lawmakers fail to reach a compromise. At the crux of deficit negotiations is revenue. Republicans want to generate revenue by closing loopholes and tax deductions while Democrats have favored raising tax rates on wealthier Americans.
Since former Republican nominee Mitt Romneys defeat and the Supreme Court upheld most of the health care initiative, Boehner said the GOPs "tactics" must change in their effort to repeal Obamacare. Boehner underscored the laws expense and pushed a dismantling of the law through congressional oversight.
"With President Obama and his party still in control of most of Washington, stopping Obamacare will require both bold state leadership and vigorous oversight by members of the House of Representatives," he wrote.
Shortly after the election, Boehner told ABC he would not make repealing the law his mission saying Obamacare was the "law of the land." Boehner later walked back the comment tweeting the GOPs goal remains a full repeal of the law.
Answer: Obstructionist obviously. Boehner must be losing his mind. Republicans lost the presidential election. They can't therefore change tactics and try to repeal Obamacare by underhanded means. It is ridiculous.for him to even suggest it.
Category: Politics
How Cool is it that NEWT says Hillary is UNSTOPPABLE in 2016?
I agree with him
WASHINGTON -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton regularly brushes off the idea of a 2016 presidential bid. But if she were to run, at least one prominent Republican thinks his party would be completely outmatched.
"The Republican party is incapable of competing at that level," Gingrich said during an appearance on NBCs "Meet The Press."
"First of all, shes very formidable as a person," he said. "Shes a very competent person. Shes married to the most popular Democrat in the country; they both think [it] would be good for her to be president. It makes it virtually impossible to stop her for the nomination."
In addition to having Bill Clintons support, Hillary Clinton would also have the backing of President Barack Obama, who will still be a "relatively popular president," Gingrich added. "Trying to win that will be truly the Super Bowl."
Most people agree with Gingrichs assessment. A recent Washington Post poll found that 57 percent of people would support Clinton as a 2016 presidential candidate.
Answer: I saw that. Newt also said Boehner should just give in on tax rate hikes. Obama won the election (I would add) and Boehner is looking like a horse's azz with his tea party gridlock stance and will own anything that goes wrong with the fiscal cliff and/or the debt ceiling.
What really surprised me today was the polling results for Hillary on the Republican side. Nearly 2/3rds of Republican women would vote for her if elections were today. That's huge!
Category: Politics
Boehner tries blaming the president for edging towards fiscal cliff. Will this work?
Boehner told reporters at the Capitol: "This isnt a progress report because there is no progress to report." He added, "The president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff."
Answer: Compromise would indicate give and take from both sides. I'm not seeing it from either.
Category: Politics
Fiscal Cliff: John Boehner Tells Republicans Not To Make Plans For ...
WASHINGTON -- House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) warned members of his caucus Wednesday that with talks on averting the "fiscal cliff" apparently stalled, they should not get their hopes up that they'll be going home for the ... The president proposed cutting <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/12/fiscal-cliff-barack-obama-_n_2118739.html" target="_hplink">$10 billion from higher education</a> over the next decade, mostly from Pell grants.
Why is Boehner trying so hard to convince the American people Obama wont negotiate?
Obama has said what he wants. He has told the GOP he wants taxes for the wealthy to return back to what they were when Clinton was President. Then he wants the Bush tax cuts to be permanent for the middle class. Obama has drawn a line in the sand, he will not negotiate what he wants. he ran on this so called negotiation Boehner keeps talking about and he is not going to take any less than what he wants. Boehner along with the GOP wants Obama to negotiate? How many times has he tried this with them only to be shut down by filibustering any and everything that would have helped the economy and middle class. The GOP has made this bed and now they have to sleep in it. If they would have won the election we would probably see the middle class disappear in a flash. They need to realize something, They lost the election not won the election. This past election was and still is a referendum against them not the Dems.
http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/boehner-obama-must-step-up-on-fiscal-cliff-84621.html?hp=l1
@BekindtoAnimals22, You seem to forget its republicans who picked this fight remember
" Our only Agenda for the next 4 years is to deny President Obama a second term"
Seems McConnells agenda has come back to haunt him huh?
Answer: Does it come as any surprise to you? Boehner all of the sudden is so honest and good and just wants to reach across the aisle? Give me a break, too many of these politicians forget what their job is and who they represent. They're taking pledges to Norquist, purposely obstructing and publicly admitting it. Its flawed, these people obviously must think they are above the rest of us commonfolk, but I'm tired of it.
Category: Politics
Why is Boehner negotiating with the President?
Since any "fiscal cliff" actions will be a LEGISLATIVE matter, why is Boehner talking with the EXECUTIVE branch about it? Shouldnt he be discussing it with the party leaders of the Dems? The congressional Dems can reflect the ideas from the President (on what he will or will not sign). Maybe we can just send all the Dems in Congress home and let Obama sign for them?
Answer: Because the president has to sign any legislation into law, so Obama thinks this makes him a dictator who can order Congress to do his bidding, or else he will refuse to sign and then blame Congress for failing to present legislation that is acceptable to him.
Obama will become the next Stalin.
Category: Politics
John Boehner said that the House GOP will work with Obama. Is it time for Cons to villify Boehner now?
We all know that most Conservatives want nothing more than more gridlocked government filled with obstructionism & filibusters galore.
Is Boehner now a "RINO" for his statements?
Answer: Note: rockhunter is a lying, uninformed, disingenuous asshole. Done.
Our president's re-election has made you generous, my friend. I saw Boehner's little speech, live, and was decidedly unimpressed. He basically spouted the same intransigent, far-right rhetoric he has since he took over as Speaker of the House. For all his talk of "compromise," he kept repeating his mantra about cutting entitlement programs while retaining the Bush tax cuts. That is absolutely unworkable and that fraudulent bastard knows it.
Look, these asshole Repugs still think they can bully President Obama into doing it their way or the highway, and he needs to stand up to them and go right ahead and let the budget go over the fiscal cliff in January. Call their bluff. They got nuthin'. This election proved it (and not just the presidential component). It's times like this that I wish Obama had more of a mean streak, because that's all the Repugs understand. (I think the Y!A Politics section demonstrates their bullying belligerence quite well.)
Also, don't forget Senator/Klansman Mitch McConnell. Unless the GOP has the good sense to depose him as minority leader in the Senate, that sorry sack of sh*t will absolutely obstruct and filibuster any prospective Democratic legislation into gridlock hell. I am beyond sick and tired of these bigoted, obstructionist, do-nothing assholes. This election amply demonstrated how the American people feel about which direction we want our country going. Given the chance, President Obama and the Democrats will absolutely dig us out of the Bush/GOP near-Depression. I just hope he takes this opportunity to play hardball and runs with it.
Category: Politics
Fiscal Cliff: John Boehner Says President Obama Is Still Not Serious
1 day ago ... Fiscal Cliff: John Boehner Says President Obama Is Still Not Serious ... Republican leaders have said they are willing to raise revenue, but have not ... Boehner noted that letting the taxes go up on the wealthy would raise a .... In his final offer to Boehner, he agreed cut $250 billion over the next ten years ...
Obama and Boehner discuss fiscal cliff by phone - Yahoo! News
Dec 5, 2012 ... Presidential aides have even encouraged speculation that Obama is willing to let the economy go over the "fiscal cliff" if necessary and gamble ...
Why not just go off the fiscal cliff already?
realith is reality. Tax increases and serious cuts in spending have to happen sooner or later. Just raising taxes on the rich wont get us anywhere. Let all the tax cuts expire.
Why not just get on with it already?
Answer: I think the repubs might as well go along with the tax hikes because now that Obama has another 4 years, everyone will just keep sitting on their money anyway. Raising taxes won't keep them from hiring because they have no intention of hiring anyone anyway. This will give them a chance to work across the aisle and it won't make any difference in any way, shape, or form.
Those earning $250,000 or over will put their money in a tax shelter and will probably end up paying even less than they would have without the tax hike. That is the way raising tax rates has always worked, or should I say, not worked. Boehner has the right idea by getting rid of some tax deductions if the real end result is to take in more revenue but I'm afraid the president is more interested in making it look like he's redistributing the wealth out of a sense of fairness while in reality, they will be paying even less. His minions will never know the difference.
Category: Politics
White House willing to go over fiscal cliff if absolutely necessary ...
Dec 3, 2012 ... Senior administration officials say Obama is willing to go over the fiscal cliff ... Boehner on 'cliff' negotiations: 'When is the President going to get ...
Is Romney going to triumph through John Boehner?
Yes! All of us who like Mitt Romney will see some of his ideas through Speaker Boehner!
Answer: Boehner the loner has already lost it. Under the emergency powers act (Reagan) and the way it has been abused (both Bushes), there is ample precedent for the President to suspend all funding of Republican por barrel projects. All he has to do is declare the "fiscal cliff" scam to be a national emergency. He also could arrest and sequester all the Republican members of the House and the Senate and keep them locked up until they can be voted out of office. All thanks to GOP measures designed to give them control of the poloice state the U.S. is turning into.
Category: Current Events
Why is Boehner trying so hard to convince the American people Obama wont negotiate?
Obama has said what he wants. He has told the GOP he wants taxes for the wealthy to return back to what they were when Clinton was President. Then he wants the Bush tax cuts to be permanent for the middle class. Obama has drawn a line in the sand, he will not negotiate what he wants. he ran on this so called negotiation Boehner keeps talking about and he is not going to take any less than what he wants. Boehner along with the GOP wants Obama to negotiate? How many times has he tried this with them only to be shut down by filibustering any and everything that would have helped the economy and middle class. The GOP has made this bed and now they have to sleep in it. If they would have won the election we would probably see the middle class disappear in a flash. They need to realize something, They lost the election not won the election. This past election was and still is a referendum against them not the Dems.
http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/boehner-obama-must-step-up-on-fiscal-cliff-84621.html?hp=l1
Answer: He and the Guardians Of Plutocracy, especially Grover's Groupies, have backed themselves into a corner with no way out. They can't force Barry to extend tax cuts for the rich, there ending and heavy cuts to the budget will trigger automatically. Taxes go up, they get a primary challenge in 2014.
They hustle to restore the tax cuts to the middle class, but have no leverage to force the tax cuts for the rich again. They still face a primary challenge.
Category: Elections
Boehner: Going to edge of fiscal cliff Obama's 'deliberate strategy ...
“Nothing is going to happen if the president insists my way or the highway,” said Boehner. Geithner recently said that the White House is “absolutely” ready to go over the fiscal cliff if House Republicans do not agree to raise ...
Can I have your thoughts on the latest poll that shows America favors Obama 2 to 1 over Boehner in Cliff Talks?
Obama Tops Boehner on Budget Talks, With Much Broader Core Support
Paul Sancya/AP Photo
Barack Obama holds a substantial advantage over John Boehner in handling budget negotiations to avoid the fiscal cliff: Nearly twice as many Americans in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll approve of the president’s work on the issue so far as favor the speaker’s approach.
Answer: Anytime Obama leads a Republican in a poll, Cons like 'Texas Patriot' will claim that the poll has a "Liberal bias."
Remember, these are the same degenerates who said the election polls & Nate Silver were wrong, until Election Day showed them to be correct.
Category: Politics
Boehner: no progress in latest round of fiscal cliff talks – as it ...
20 hours ago ... Republican House speaker says president's approach to cliff 'not balanced' as poll shows ... Boehner Still Hopeful On Fiscal Cliff Negotiations ... and won on his pledge to hike taxes on income brackets over $250,000," Byron Tau writes: ... "If fiscal policy becomes too contractionary... we could go off the cliff.
Boehner To Give Update On Fiscal Cliff Talks - Business Insider
It was cordial," Boehner said, adding: "We're still waiting for the White House to identify what spending cuts the President is willing to make." "The longer the White House slow walks this ... Recent Posts About John Boehner. John Boehner And Republicans Have Sent Obama Another Fiscal Cliff Counteroffer · There's Not A Single Spending Cut That Republican Voters Support · ART CASHIN: Going Over The Cliff Could Turn The GOP Into A Modern-Day Whig Party ...
Boehner tussles with Obama over "fiscal cliff" details - Political Eye ...
1 day ago ... On the House floor today, Boehner called on President Obama to name what ... the White House to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make ... Boehner presses Obama on "fiscal cliff" spending cuts .... linkicon reporticon emailicon; SpineLessObama says: Let thug Obama go over the cliff.
Boehner: 'Where are the president's spending cuts?' | The Daily Caller
The fiscal cliff refers to across-the-board automatic spending cuts and tax hikes for all Americans set to go into effect at the end of the year if a debt deal doesn't pass through Congress. Boehner's remarks on Tuesday indicate ...
Boehner: No progress in fiscal cliff talks
Boehner told reporters outside his Capitol Hill office Friday that the president needs to get serious with the combination of tax hikes and ... Boehner called White House aides' comments that Obama was willing to go over the cliff " reckless talk." ...
When will Boehner start crying over the stress?
Public is already blaming him and if his right wing sees him compromise they will throw him out as speaker.
So when will he start crying??
National polls show that Republicans would take the brunt of the blame for a dive over the so-called fiscal cliff. A Washington Post/Pew Research Survey released this week found that a majority of the public (53 percent) would point the finger at Republicans if Congress fails to reach a deal on taxes and government spending. Just 27 percent would blame President Obama.
Answer: It is their fault anyways. I can't for 2014 to get them the fuck out of the senate
Edit: Corrine darling, I'm only speaking to the neo-c@n idiots who think they're the GOP of Lincoln...does the shoe fit? LOL
Category: Politics
Fiscal Cliff: John Boehner Says President Obama Is Still Not Serious
WASHINGTON -- In spite of stepped-up talks between the White House and Congress over the impending "fiscal cliff," leaders on each side of Capitol Hill Tuesday signaled that little progress has been made with 21 days before the start of mandatory tax hikes and budget cuts. House Speaker John Boehner ... Boehner noted that letting the taxes go up on the wealthy would raise a relatively small amount compared to the annual deficit. Estimates of revenue raised ...
Do you agree with my predictions regarding Obama and Fiscal Cliff and Sequestor?
1. Obama will pretend to participate in "serious" negotiations with the Republicans in the House of Representatives to resolve the Sequestor, the Fiscal Cliff, and Debt Ceilng crisis.
2. As a potential agreement emerges, Obama will quietly and behind closed doors intentionally increase his demands at the last minute in much the same way Bob Woodward had described in his recent book** about previous debt ceiling negotiations from a year ago. Obama will definitively ask for whatever it takes to destroy any possibility of an actual deal.
3. No deal will be reached. All defense cuts and job loss from the sequestor will happen. All tax increases in the Fiscal Cliff will take effect. And a debt ceiling increase will occur simultaneous to a formal reduction of USAs credit rating.
4. NBCs Brian Williams, Matt Lauer, CNNs Soledad OBrien, ABCs George Stephanopolous will report that Obama did nothing wrong and that Tea Party zealots are imperiling the future of USA out of pure personal hatred and racism against this President. Republicans will be interviewed and asked why they want to ruin USA just to hurt Obama. Obama will be asked how he can maneuver USA passed the Tea Party threat to our childrens future.
5. Attempts at grass roots levels to express sympathy and substantive arguments on behalf of these Republicans will be quietly disparaged and delegitimized by their neighbors as nothing more than racism and hatred.
6. Obama will use windfall of revenue to offer more goodies to voters and wage a federally-funded program of spending to win mass adoration from voters while doing nothing to meaningfully restore the fiscal solvency of USA.
7. Obama will use political capital to pass landmark campaign finance reform eliminating 1st Amendment issues involved in Citizens United decision. Ultimately it will limit all election-affecting speech to 6 news/editorial entities, 5 which support a pro-Democrat party message and 1 that supports the opposition. Neighbors will quickly disparage, demean, and belittle anyone who watches this 6th entity, much less sympathizes with its message or accept their reported coverage of scandals of Obama administration as if its legitimate.
8. On Comedy Channel, Jon Stewart will occasionally quibble about these 5 pro-Democrat networks, but regularly launch satirical tirades on the 6th one and eventually question whether or not we even need any opposition media in the era of Obama, a President supported by majorities all around the world.
9. As more and more economic misery unfolds due to continued horrible economic policies that discourage productivity and encourage dependency, Obama uses media machine to blame all problems on Republicans for slowing down his attempts at rampant spending.
Im not sure exactly of the details of how it devolves after this, but USA begins to quickly follow the steady death spiral we already see in Europe. Any chance of USA to recover its promise of freedom and opportunity will be lost forever as we will be permanently trapped on a path to bankruptcy.
George Soros, the biggest donor to Obamas campaign and most frequent visitor to the White House will double his net worth once more, just as he did in Obamas first term.
**Excerpt from Bob Woodwards "The Price of Politics"
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"Obama succeeded in getting Boehner to tentatively agree to as much as $800 billion in new revenue, a major concession, only to surprise the speaker with a request for an additional $400 billion as their negotiations neared the final stages. Unable to muster support among his lieutenants for such a proposal, Boehner ducked the presidents phone calls before pulling out of the talks for good.
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BTW: This is why our credit rating dropped a year ago.
Twice actually. Once a year ago and once just before the election.
The media never even bothered to mention this 2nd drop since it wouldve hurt Obama.
Answer: It should be simpler.
"Mr. President, put the spending cuts on the table, or don't bother calling me, you moron" - Boehner
Category: Politics
White House leaks: Obama willing to go over fiscal cliff | The Daily ...
White House sources are telling Democratic reporters that the president is willing to go over the so-called “fiscal cliff” if GOP leaders don't agree to his demand for higher tax rates on the wealthy without substantive spending cuts. A political ... Republican lawmakers, including House Speaker John Boehner, say they are opposed to any increase in tax rates, but have said they would vote to increase tax revenues by ending tax breaks used by wealthier Americans.
White House 'Absolutely' Willing To Go Off The Fiscal Cliff - ABC News
Dec 5, 2012 ... President Obama's lead negotiator in the "fiscal cliff" talks said the ... Obama and Boehner publicly sparred over who's to blame for the standoff ...
John Boehner Gives Fiscal Cliff Counteroffer To White House
... Boehner spokesman Michael Steel. "As the Speaker said today, we're still waiting for the White House to identify what spending cuts the president is willing to make as part of the 'balanced approach' he promised the American people. .... The president proposed cutting <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/12/fiscal-cliff-barack-obama-_n_2118739.html" target="_hplink">$10 billion from higher education</a> over the next decade, mostly from Pell grants.
Will Congress really work through Christmas and New Year like they say if a fiscal deal is not reached?
I would think that would be too hurtful to their families who want them home for the holidays even if they have to return the day after Christmas. They should at least have Christmas Weekend off 22-25.
Answer: No work - no vacation. They should have been working on this for the past year. They knew the Bush/CHENEY/Rove tax cuts were going to end and Republican lawmakers sat on their butts hoping for a Romney win so they could extend them again. They add drama by making it appear as a last minute desperation move. They should work together all year long. If they worked in a corporation, they would all be fired for incompetence. RIght now its down to President Obama and Boehner. No one should have time off until they all act like responsible adults. They can thank Mitch McConnell for wasting more time with his bone-head move of filibustering his own bill. They can also thank Grover Norquist who jerks the Republican party from the sidelines.
EDIT: They will come up with a lukewarm solution to make the American people think they actually accomplished something. They did this with the Health Care Reform Bill when they passed it but "compromised" by taking out the best feature of the Bill - the single payer option. Congress ALWAYS favors the 1%. This "fiscal cliff fiasco" will be no different.
Category: Politics
Why Is Bonehead piddling around when America sees through his tricks and favors our President?
If he thinks he can destroy America for his shenanigans and point finger at Obama he be WRONG
All Of The Fiscal Cliff Polls Have Been Pretty Brutal For Republicans
Brett LoGiurato | Dec. 7, 2012, 3:26 PM | 13,748 | 23
As negotiations on a deal to avert the "fiscal cliff" enter the final three weeks, Republicans face a stark reality: The American public continues siding with President Barack Obama and Democrats on the issues crucial to any potential deal.
Polls taken over the past month have continually shown that a post-election bump for the President, combined with the relative unpopularity of Republicans, gives Obama a lot of leverage in the debate.
Voters overwhelmingly support the key element of Obamas plan for a deal — raising taxes on incomes above $250,000. They also support blanket entitlement cuts, which is what the GOP wants in a deal. But when asked about specific entitlement reforms, they balk at the options.
Heres a rundown of the GOPs public-opinion problem:
* In the past week, voters appear to be moving even more toward a position that favors raising tax rates on incomes above $250,000. A Thursday Quinnipiac poll found the margin at a whopping 65-31. In a new Associated Press/GfK poll, 48 percent favored eliminating the Bush-era tax cuts on incomes above $250,000.
* Obama has more cards to play with — because if leaders do fail to reach an agreement, the public overwhelmingly says it will blame Republicans by a 53-27 percent margin. This underscores what two big conservatives wrote last week — that Republicans are "screwed" because they dont have much leverage, especially in the court of public opinion.
* What has gone unnoticed in a lot of fiscal-cliff polling is how starkly people come out against any specific entitlement reforms pollsters ask about. For example, in the Quinnipiac poll, people oppose cutting Medicare spending by a 70-25 margin. By a 51-44 margin, they oppose raising the Medicare eligibility age.
* The AP poll shows that voters also "trust" Democrats more on handling Medicare — by an astounding 20-point margin. Thats a stark contrast from June 2011, when the same poll found Democrats with an 8-point advantage.
* By a 49-30 margin, voters also disapprove of changing the way Social Security benefits are calculated, according to the AP poll.
The kicker lies in the difference in approval ratings between Obama and Congressional Republicans. Obamas approval rating hit an astounding 57 percent in Fridays AP survey. Meanwhile, Congress has a 23 percent approval rating.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/fiscal-cliff-polls-explained-tax-rates-obama-taxes-republicans-boehner-cuts-medicare-2012-12#ixzz2Eatr3oqa
Answer: This is a good question. Considering that Boehner's reputation and his job is at risk one would think that he would be willing to work out a solution to this important problem but he isn't. The thing holding this up is ending the Bush tax breaks for the wealthy. It almost makes me wonder if someone , like the Koch brothers, is paying Boehner big money to do this. We don't have to wonder we know he taking money and it is legal because congress passed a law that made bribery legal just for them. They call it "campaign contributions".
If this isn't done the middle class will be forced to pay the difference. I don't want to pay $2,000 more a year in taxes just because the wealthy don't want to pay for the war they started. There won't be any exceptions and this includes the middle class republicans as well who seem to think this is acceptable so the wealth can have more.
Category: Politics
Is this a Preview of coming attractions: the guy who won 332-206 will win cliff wars?
Robert Shrum: Obama Won Election & Will Win Again on Fiscal Cliff
The fiscal cliff fight can play out in different ways—but in any scenario, the Bush tax rates for the rich are gone. Obama may make some concessions to the GOP, but he’ll end up victorious, just as he did in November, says Robert Shrum.
He’s abruptly resigned to take over the right-wing Heritage Foundation think tank. But on his way out the door, the presiding prelate of the Tea Party in the Senate, South Carolina’s Jim DeMint, anathematized House Speaker John Boehner for the secular sin of offering a Republican proposal to raise revenue by closing loopholes and limiting deductions. As heresies go, it’s not much. Boehner has brewed a warmed-over Mitt Romney plan while omitting the noxious idea of voucherizing Medicare. Never fear, through: the speaker seeks big cuts in Medicare and Social Security benefits, proving again that something at the heart of the Republican Party yearns to shred the social safety net.
Obama Wins Again
High school English teacher Tiffany Santana listens at left as President Barack Obama speaks to the media during a visit with middle class taxpayers to discuss the importance of extending income tax cuts for Americans and small businesses, December 6, 2012, in Falls Church, Virginia. (Carolyn Kaster / AP Photo)
In the Kabuki theater now being performed on the fiscal cliff, DeMint is irrelevant—and so are Boehner and the primary-paranoid GOP Senate Leader Mitch McConnell—on the central question of higher tax rates for the wealthy. It’s not just that President Obama campaigned and won on raising those rates, unlike the President Bush of 2004, who claimed a mandate to privatize Social Security, a scheme he had not dared speak of during the election. Nor is the decisive factor simply the exit polling or the post-November polling, which show 63 percent of Americans are on the president’s side here.
What matters most is that the tax increases will happen on Dec. 31, unless Obama agrees to stop them. Republicans backed themselves into this corner first with Bush’s deal to sunset his tax plan after 10 years, then with the congressional party’s 2010 “victory” in extending the tax cuts until after the election, and then with the 2011 jerry-rigged contrivance of “sequestration,” automatic reductions in domestic and defense spending at the end of this year as the price for raising the debt ceiling. The latter two moves were premonitory expressions of the GOP delusion of unskewed polls and an unrepresentative turnout, which pervaded the Romney headquarters and its attendant pundit class all the way until Ohio and the election were called—and in Karl Rove’s case, screechingly beyond that. Obama, they believed with all the fervor of a false faith, was bound to lose. And now, in the fiscal negotiations, they’re still running on the same tattered laundry ticket that took them down the road to defeat.
The deception of hiding blessings for the rich behind a tax break for the middle class, the drivel about “job creators,” the doctrinal fulminations of Grover Norquist with his pledge never, ever to vote for a tax increase—which has turned Republicans into Stepford senators and representatives—all this is a bankrupt strategy both in terms of policy and politics.
On policy, the fight can play out in different ways. But whatever the way, we will end with tax rates at the top back up to the Clinton-era “job killing” level—when the economy created 22 million new jobs. Simultaneously or soon after, the tax cuts for the middle class will be restored.
Answer: I'm really glad the Prez seems to have become a better negotiator and to use the political capital he actually has. I don't know why he didn't do that in the first term.
Rove, DeMint and Dick Morris go bye-bye; Boehner kicks some tea partiers out of their positions; the Prez gets great approval numbers--how good can things get?
Category: Politics
Obama, Boehner try to talk their way down from fiscal cliff - CNN.com
2 days ago ... It's crunch time for avoiding the fiscal cliff, with President Barack Obama and House ... the automatic tax hikes and spending cuts of the fiscal cliff go into effect on January 1. ... "I'm willing to compromise a little bit," Obama said Monday in a ... While economists warn that going over the fiscal cliff could lead to ...
Boehner: White House seems willing to "slow-walk" over "fiscal cliff"
Speaker of the House of Representatives John Boehner charged on Thursday that the White House seems willing to "slow-walk our economy right up to - and over - the fiscal cliff." ... In remarks prepared for a scheduled 11:15 a.m. ET (16:15 GMT) news conference, Boehner also said, "The president wants to pretend spending isn't the problem. That's why we don't have an agreement" to reduce the mounting U.S. debt. Boehner's remarks underscored the lack of ...
Do liberals not like Romney because everything he touches turns to gold?
lIke the Olympics he fixed, bain, all those other companies etc.
Answer: Many Liberals have apparently become used to lack of success under Obama - the president who said he would cut the deficit, create jobs, raise minimum wage to $9.50 per hour by 2011 and reach across the aisle. As to base metals, Obama represents a lead brick going nowhere but down.
Well he didn't produce on his rhetoric and we see that when he made the "I won" comment to John Boehner it was all about triumph and punishment. He has lowered the bar, reneged on his campaign promises and, is selling out our military. Obama wanted the bipartisan committee because he knew they would not be able to agree on specific areas for budget cuts thereby allowing the "automatic" decimation of our military. Many don't realize that it's not just about reducing military numbers but also reduces government spending on US federal contractors, who are also job creators. When the automatic military cuts are invoked, we will fall off the fiscal cliff that the CBO warned about.
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